some of these meetings and you say, oh, all the arguments they're saying here, they're going to de-escalate, but time after time, he makes the decision to escalate until finally, you know, we're up to 586,000. i mean we talk about iraq and afghanistan today. we had 586,000 men in the jungles of vietnam. why is he going forward? you know, in the white house, then pennsylvania avenue, was not cordoned off so the protesters could come right up to the white house gates. you can hear in parts of the white house what they're chanting. they're chanting, hey, hey, lbj, how many kids did you kill today? he can hear it, his wife can hear it, his daughters can hear it, and yet he goes on. it's one of the unyielding terms.